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Elizabeth Edwards Backs Senator Hillary Clinton's Health Care Plan******POOR OBAMA and The OBAMANITES******Posted by Anonymous on April 9, 2008 - 11:39am. Obviously this is going to hurts Senator Obama in OUR HELATHCARE STRICKEN STATE OF PENNSYLVANIA. http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/04/09/elizabeth-edwards-backs-hillary-... |
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Since you are so enamourate of FAUX news....why not just make the leap and scoot on over to the Republican Party? Post haste!
Hillary manipulating the public with the slogan
"We're doing it for the children"
In 1994, HRC (Hillary Rodham Clinton) set out to redesign the American health-care system and convened a panel that drafted its plan secretly-in violation of federal law...The plan prescribed some eye-popping maximum fines:
$5,000 for refusing to join the government-mandated health plan
$5,000 for failing to pay the premiums on time
15 years to doctors who received "anything of value" in exchange for helping patients short-circuit the bureaucracy
$10,000 a day for faulty physician paperwork
$50,000 for unauthorized patient treatment
$100,000 a day for drug companies that messed up federal filings
When told the plan could bankrupt small businesses, Mrs. Clinton sighed, "I can't be responsible for every undercapitalized small business in America." When a woman complained that she didn't want to get shoved into a plan not of her choosing, the first lady lectured, "It's time to put the common good, the national interest, ahead of individuals." As for privacy, forget it: Her plan would have required people to carry national identification cards that embedded confidential patient information on computer chips.
The above information came from a column by Tony Snow.
Now consider further this: Hillary was never elected to any office of public trust and never has been elected to any office in her life! Read the following lies that the Associated Press found:
"Hillary has, in effect, told a federal judge that, frankly my dear, I'm too important to testify in your little old courtroom. Fighting a subpoena by Judicial Watch in a $90 million lawsuit on behalf of GOP officials and others whose FBI files were abused by the Clinton White House, HRC, in her brief, declares that "as a general proposition, high-ranking government officials are not subject to depositions" and she shouldn't have to testify so she can "have time to dedicated to the performance of [her] government functions." One problem: Mrs. Clinton is not a government official. She is, however, a defendant in the suit."
She was the force behind the theft of the FBI files and the purchase and installation of the "Big Brother" computer system ($1.5 million taxpayer dollars). The computer was illegally used to store the names of literally hundreds of thousands of donors to the Democratic Party. It stored all their statistics including the names of all the family members, how much they contributed, and even personal banking information! The Funds that Bill Clinton raised were then used illegally for the "soft" money that is hard to trace to elect himself and other Democrats by paying for advertising and other campaign expenses.
This was written by Bob Schatan, RN
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This message is so imporant, it should stay at the top of the board.
Let's not forget that her "new" healthcare still mandates the payment of insurance premiums.
How is that going to be monitored? By big, big, interfering government.
Where is that going to lead? Government run healthcare.
If anyone thinks for a moment that government-run healthcare is the answer, start reading about the healthcare crises in Canada and Britain.
Barack Hussein Obama wants voters to decide the nomination based on who can coolly and competently run the country. He had better hope they don’t study his recent campaign too closely for the answer. Obama has overseen major staff shake-ups in two months. He has left a trail of judgement issues that the Republicans will more than happy bring up in the general election, and unhappy voters that had to listen to his own campaign accepting of the Racist and Anti-American advisersto they keep close by. His campaign badly underestimated his main adversary, Senator Hillary Clinton, miscalculated the importance of organizing swing states and was caught flat-footed after failing to lock up the nomination on Super Tuesday. The Obama [...] campaign has been marked by strategic missteps, confused uncertainty and personnel drama.
And recently his negative ads are saturating our airways...so don't even say he doesn't run a negative campaign. But the Obamanites will find a way to accept this as a way to respond to the ads of truth that Senator Clinton is running.
We will turn back the arrogance and down-speaking mumbo jumbo from this snakeoil salesman.
GO PA!!!
Hillary manipulating the public with the slogan
"We're doing it for the children"
In 1994, HRC (Hillary Rodham Clinton) set out to redesign the American health-care system and convened a panel that drafted its plan secretly-in violation of federal law...The plan prescribed some eye-popping maximum fines:
$5,000 for refusing to join the government-mandated health plan
$5,000 for failing to pay the premiums on time
15 years to doctors who received "anything of value" in exchange for helping patients short-circuit the bureaucracy
$10,000 a day for faulty physician paperwork
$50,000 for unauthorized patient treatment
$100,000 a day for drug companies that messed up federal filings
When told the plan could bankrupt small businesses, Mrs. Clinton sighed, "I can't be responsible for every undercapitalized small business in America." When a woman complained that she didn't want to get shoved into a plan not of her choosing, the first lady lectured, "It's time to put the common good, the national interest, ahead of individuals." As for privacy, forget it: Her plan would have required people to carry national identification cards that embedded confidential patient information on computer chips.
The above information came from a column by Tony Snow.
Now consider further this: Hillary was never elected to any office of public trust and never has been elected to any office in her life! Read the following lies that the Associated Press found:
"Hillary has, in effect, told a federal judge that, frankly my dear, I'm too important to testify in your little old courtroom. Fighting a subpoena by Judicial Watch in a $90 million lawsuit on behalf of GOP officials and others whose FBI files were abused by the Clinton White House, HRC, in her brief, declares that "as a general proposition, high-ranking government officials are not subject to depositions" and she shouldn't have to testify so she can "have time to dedicated to the performance of [her] government functions." One problem: Mrs. Clinton is not a government official. She is, however, a defendant in the suit."
She was the force behind the theft of the FBI files and the purchase and installation of the "Big Brother" computer system ($1.5 million taxpayer dollars). The computer was illegally used to store the names of literally hundreds of thousands of donors to the Democratic Party. It stored all their statistics including the names of all the family members, how much they contributed, and even personal banking information! The Funds that Bill Clinton raised were then used illegally for the "soft" money that is hard to trace to elect himself and other Democrats by paying for advertising and other campaign expenses.
This was written by Bob Schatan, RN
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poor Obama cannot get the support he needs to have a "TRUE" Universal Health Care Plan.
The Health Care portion was my most favorite part of the debate and Senator Obama looked lost and annoyed at the question instead of embracing it. To me it shows that it's not an important issue to him...How Sad Indeed.
Go Liz!!!! YOU ROCK!!!!!
Three cheers for Elizabeth Edwards
exactly Well said. Obama should have included everybody to truly call it "Universal" but he and his Obamanites are gonna make excuses to leave out millions from having healthcare..OH Well Elitest at it's best.
One smart lady Mrs Edwards
Barack Hussein Obama wants voters to decide the nomination based on who can coolly and competently run the country. He had better hope they don’t study his recent campaign too closely for the answer. Obama has overseen major staff shake-ups in two months. He has left a trail of judgement issues that the Republicans will more than happy bring up in the general election, and unhappy voters that had to listen to his own campaign accepting of the Racist and Anti-American advisersto they keep close by. His campaign badly underestimated his main adversary, Senator Hillary Clinton, miscalculated the importance of organizing swing states and was caught flat-footed after failing to lock up the nomination on Super Tuesday. The Obama [...] campaign has been marked by strategic missteps, confused uncertainty and personnel drama.
Ther ya go...Just like the master...accusing people of being racist for challenging Senator Obama. The FREE RIDE IS OVER. REAL AMERICA is wise to this false and empty speaking candidate. Like all the other posters have recognized the HOSTILITY of the OBAMANITES and as it has been said...THE APPLES DON"T FALL FAR FROM THE TREE.
WOW such hostility from the obamanites...Nobody can support Senator Clinton without sexist and hateful rheteric...Oh well...I guess the apples don't fall far from the tree.
I agree with this statement:
I'd rather have everybody covered than just those that have Health Care. I feel it's selfish for us that do...to not give a rip about those that can't afford it. If it were on the other foot, people would be more than happy with Senator Clinton's Health Care Plan.
I'd like to know how people would feel after they lost their Health Care just to see the different attitude.
GOD BLESS AMERICA
Are you with the KKK or something? Because it bothers me that you practice such prejudice!
Come out from that cave into the light - and lose your idiot clothes while your at it! Stop being a useless member of society
You are a poor excuse for a human being - as noted by your anonymous postings. What are you afraid of?
WOW such hostility from the obamanites...Nobody can support Senator Clinton without sexist and hateful rheteric...Oh well...I guess the apples don't fall far from the tree.
I agree with this statement:
I'd rather have everybody covered than just those that have Health Care. I feel it's selfish for us that do...to not give a rip about those that can't afford it. If it were on the other foot, people would be more than happy with Senator Clinton's Health Care Plan.
I'd like to know how people would feel after they lost their Health Care just to see the different attitude.
GOD BLESS AMERICA
Have you bothered to read about Hillary Clinton's healthcare plan, or have you just taken in the sound bites?
Hillary Clinton's healthcare plan mandates that everyone pays the premiums. That's bad enough in itself. This is where you have to read further to understand the full implications of her plan. Someone has to monitor that mandate. That's government. Big, big government. As the complexities of that government mandate become evident, the government will surely take over.
Yes, the government will take over. That's what left-wing Hillary has wanted all the time. That's why her first healthcare fiasco failed.
If you think government should be running the healthcare system, start reading about the disasters of such systems. Britain and Canada are two good examples. Millions in Canada can't even find doctors. Wait times to see a doctor run into months. The taxpayers are crumbling under the tax expense. People suffer terribly in Britain, caught between the layers of healthcare.
One thing that has astounded me in this campaign is the willingness of voters to to suspend the facts about the candidates, or never take the time to learn the facts in the first place.
It is scary that people support a candidate on the basis of sound bites. Worse yet, in Mrs. Clinton's case, they support her just because she is a woman, or because of her name. Yet she is the most unsuitable of candidates.
I'd rather have everybody covered than just those that have Health Care. I feel it's selfish for us that do...to not give a rip about those that can't afford it. If it were on the other foot, people would be more than happy with Senator Clinton's Health Care Plan.
I'd like to know how people would feel after they lost their Health Care just to see the different attitude.
GOD BLESS AMERICA
I personally would rather have a choice to get Healthcare instead of being made to get it. And under Hillary's plan we will be fined if we don't buy into her plan. Obama's plan gives us a choice. Do we want to be told what to do ? Or is this just another plan for Hillary to make good with the insurance compaines, hospitals and drug companies ? We are a free country and when the Goverment tells us what we have to do then it's starts to get scary. What else would she make mandatory to the American people ? The Patriot Act was bad, but this is worse.
Here Here...Next is Senator Edwards
GO Mrs Edwards. Takes a parent to truly feel the crunch and understand the need for TRUE Universal Health Care.
OBAMA LIKES TO BASE HIS PLANS ON OBSERVED FACTS RATHER THAN THEORIES
Elizabeth Edwards says the plans are very similar but she prefers Clinton's plan because it makes buying health insurance compulsory and Obama's plan does not. Obama points out that in Massachussets where right now people must buy health inusrance or pay a fine, people are paying the fine rather than buy insurance they feel they can't afford.
I think the last playground you got kicked out of for being a bully and crybaby was just. Now you're here and we have to put up with it as well as we can. Tis Tis You may want to read your post to see who the real child is.(spelling aside)
I'm just posting the facts !!!!! It's seems that you have a problem with that . I hope that all of Hillary's followers arn't as childish as you, if they are then she doesn't have a chance.
Bitter Betty table for 3 ready...
Hope you enjoy tonight's special...CROW Under Glass.
Maybe it can be a weekly special for the Obamanites.
The Clinton health plan required each US citizen and permanent resident alien to become enrolled in a qualified health plan and forbade their disenrollment until covered by another plan. It listed minimum coverages and maximum annual out of pocket expenses for each plan. It proposed the establishment of corporate "regional alliances" of health providers to be subject to a fee-for-service schedule. People below a certain set income level were to pay nothing. The act listed funding to be sent to the states for the administration of this plan, beginning at $4.5 billion in 1993 and reaching $38.3 billion in 2003.
In 2005, referring to her previous efforts at health care reform, Hillary Clinton said "I learned some valuable lessons about the legislative process, the importance of bipartisan cooperation and the wisdom of taking small steps to get a big job done."[24] Again in 2007, she reflected on her role in 1993-1994: "I think that both the process and the plan were flawed. We were trying to do something that was very hard to do, and we made a lot of mistakes."[29]
Hillary Clinton received hundreds of thousands of dollars in campaign contributions from doctors, hospitals, drug companies, and insurance companies for her 2006 re-election in the Senate, including several insurance companies that were members of the Health Insurance Association of America that helped defeat the Clinton Health Plan in 1994.[19] Charles N. Kahn III, a Republican who was executive vice president of the Health Insurance Association in 1993 and 1994, refers to his previous battles with Clinton as "ancient history," and says "she is extremely knowledgeable about health care and has become a Congressional leader on the issue."[19]
In the years since the Clinton effort of 1993-1994, a combination of factors have kept health care off the top of the agenda. For example, politicians have not been eager to confront the forces that successfully frustrated the Clinton effort, and health maintenance organizations have been able to limit cost increases to some extent.[30]
The Clinton health care plan remains the most prominent national proposal associated with Hillary Clinton, and may influence her prospects in the 2008 presidential election. There are some similarities between the Clinton Health Plan and Republican Mitt Romney's health care plan that has been implemented in Massachusetts,[10][31] though Romney has since distanced himself from Clinton on the issue, in particular arguing that his plan calls for more control at the state level and the private market, not from the federal government.[32] According to Bill Maher, Clinton's attempts to distance herself from the original plan (stating in one debate, "We tried that in '93, and I've got the scars to prove it") are unwise because, in his view, she should be reminding other candidates of such similarities:[33]
“ And Hillary Clinton – I’ve heard her recently say, "Oh, yeah, we made a lot of mistakes back when I was doing health care; oh, I shouldn't have done this." [...] Instead of saying, "You know what? I kind of had it right back then, and you idiots went along with 'Harry and Louise', which were ads bought by the insurance companies." [...] And if you look at the plans that the other people have come up with, they're basically the same plan that she proposed. [...] And she's giving life to the lie. ”
She also stated that they are basically the same, except Hillary's plan makes it mandatory that everyone buys into her plan ( meaning the health insurers will make loads of money) or as Obama's plan lets us make the choice of if we want it or not. Actually Senator Edwards had the same healh care plan before Hillary. Why isn't he running for President instead of her ? But is Hillary telling the truth or is she sleep deprived again. After all she is a complusive liar.
Barack Hussein Obama wants voters to decide the nomination based on who can coolly and competently run the country. He had better hope they don’t study her recent campaign too closely for the answer. Obama has overseen major staff shake-ups in two months. He has left a trail of judgement issues that the Republicans will more than happy bring up in the general election, and unhappy voters that had to listen to his own campaign accepting of the Racist and Anti-American advisersto they keep close by. His campaign badly underestimated his main adversary, Senator Hillary Clinton, miscalculated the importance of organizing swing states and was caught flat-footed after failing to lock up the nomination on Super Tuesday. The Obama [...] campaign has been marked by strategic missteps, confused uncertainty and personnel drama.
I love this.