There will be several signs in the heavens that signify the start of real reform:
:The likes of DeWeese, Fumo, Percel(sic?) etal, will join Mike Veon in the 'out of office' league.
:We pass legislation that prevents their like from being recycled into the lobbiest ranks.
:We Democrats demand the same standards of performance & behavior that we might lord over the Republicans.
:Our legislators actually work on policies that benefit the majority of citizens rather that protect their own incumbency.
:That we somehow transcend the urbanites vs suburbanites vs rural residents debate which serves no one well except the incumbent legislators.
:That serious legislative size reduction is voted on. This might help ameliorate the above divide.